Repost: Do ‘penis size’ studies measure up?

There are many ways men like to be described, but when it comes to describing their penis size, most men would rather keep that a private issue – unless they can claim one of the precarious labels above. Nevertheless, penis size is very important to some people – more often than not, men, in their eternal quest to know if they “measure up.”

But first things first. What is the average length of an erect penis? 5.3 inches? 6 inches? 10 inches? Well, every one of those answers has come up in statistical surveys and self-perception questionnaires. And based on the evidence, the answer is closer to the first two than the latter (which, by the way, is how most men described how big their penis was in a campus survey!). Everyone from esteemed sex researcher Alfred Kinsey to amateur webmasters looking to survey the surfing male public has entered the fray to find out the average length of the erect penis. And, well, there is no one definitive answer. But for argument’s sake (and the overwhelming consensus among scientific and less scientific studies), let’s say it’s in the vicinity of 6 inches, or about 15 centimetres.

Now, when it comes to studies about penis size, figuring out the actual length of the member is a piece of cake. Other studies have strayed into sometimes less straightforward, politically incorrect waters, like what role race plays into the equation. There have long been stereotypes around concerning which races are better endowed or less endowed than others. In fact, even some physicians have added their two cents worth. “My conclusions, I guess, can be based on my observations clinically,” says Dr. Robert Stubbs, a Canadian penis-enhancement surgeon. “I think there is definitely a racial difference, and at this point – and I’m quite prepared to be proven wrong – there are three sizes: black, white and yellow (Asian), in descending order.”

But does this opinion stand up in the court of scientific accuracy? Again, the issue is a murky one. “Anthropological studies from the past 100 years have really documented that, on average, penis size of east Asian males are smaller than western European and North American males,” states Dr. Robert Francoeur, editor of the The International Encyclopedia of Sexuality. “And African males, on average, have a larger penis size.” But Francoeur is also first to admit there are always many exceptions to the rule. So what’s the answer?

Toronto-based physician, Dr. Jerald Bain, who treats men with reproductive disorders, thinks there isn’t yet an answer he’s satisfied with. “But I can tell you from my own personal experience in seeing hundreds and hundreds of men – and I have the added advantage of working in Toronto, a very international city – that there is no difference from one ethnic origin to another,” he says. And, he adds, if his observations are not the real answer, the race card can also be a double-edged sword.

Confused? Bain says that if penis size is related to race – which he says he’s not aware has been scientifically proven anywhere – it might actually make sense. After all, he points out, if Asian men have smaller penises than Caucasians, that may have something to do with the fact that their body build and height have a bearing on the matter. And when it comes to this side of the equation, Bain knows his stuff. Bain has looked at whether the length of a man’s penis can be determined (or guessed) simply by looking at some other less private body parts – like feet.

“We measured their height and found that penis size was related to shoe size – but only insofar as it related to the general size of the man,” explains Bain. Although the statistical relationship was weak, it was there, and taller men tend to have larger appendages of all sorts, including the penis.

But perhaps the biggest question that should be asked is, does penis size matter in the first place? As Stubbs even admits, “penis size studies are meaningless in terms of procreation because if indeed Oriental men are smaller, they’ve populated the world to the greatest extent.” And when it comes right down to it, sex educator Sue Johansen, who doesn’t mince her words, puts it rather plainly: “it really doesn’t matter. Bigger is not better.” So we’ve raised the questions and you still don’t think you’ve heard a satisfactory answer. Well, as with other controversial topics, this is one of those with no simple answers – at least not yet – which makes it one of the most enduring sexual myths.

Just in case there is any confusion, though, here’s what isknown, in plain black and white: the average length of the erect penis is roughly 5.5 to 6 inches. There are no scientific studies to show that penis size and race are related in any meaningful way – and yes, penis size and foot size do have a loose correlation.

So, if you’re a man reading this, where do you fit in? When you find out, keep it quietly to yourself and maybe some of the enduring myths about penis size will fade away. Then again, who am I kidding?

Source: Hunt, Stephen. 2001. Do ‘penis size’ studies measure up? http://www.psurg.com/discovery2001.html [accessed: 2013-04-25].

I am confused as to why an enhancement surgeon (Dr. Stubbs) would think that those who come to him for help would represent the average of the normal ethnic groups. An email sent to him for clarification is sadly yet unanswered. Quite unfortunately, Dr. Robert Francoeur is dead but if my track record is any indicator, he would not have replied to my emails anyway. His co-author (Dr. Noonan) was kind enough to reply but does not know of the studies to which Francoeur referred. Alas, I believe he meant the same occult French source as used by Rushton (also dead) and Bogaert (refuses to reply to multiple emails).

Repost: Of Pinheads And Penis Sizes

The article being referenced is Cheng, P., and J. Chanoine. 2001. Should the definition of micropenis vary according to ethnicity? Hormone Research 55(6): 278–281.

See if you can spot the pinheads: Two researchers at British Columbia’s Children’s Hospital, Canada, are engaged in cutting-edge work. Not the kind to let the shortage of high tech medical equipment in the province get in the way of science, the two potential Nobel Prize laureates intend to take a measuring tape to the penises of their newborn charges to see whether there is a relationship between size and race. Team member Dr. Pik Shun Cheng, vaporized about “the diagnosis of small penis carrying important implications for babies and parents.” More like a case of outsized ambition wrapped in pseudo-scientific bafflegab.

Says this medical maven from Honk Kong who is serving a clinical fellowship at the children’s hospital: “Penis size by race has largely gone unstudied”. And what a loss that is. Think of the wealth of information to be gleaned from a bell-curve graph neatly plotted with penile size and race, the mind boggles. The man in charge of the diaper invasion is a Dr. Jean-Pierre Chanoinen, a brain influx from Brussels. He told Global TV that in his country, this endeavor would not have inked the back page of a local newspaper. Of course, Global’s reporter took the good doctor’s word that, notwithstanding the study’s controversial nature, it had medical merit. Does it?

Observe the desperate attempts by the under-siege faux researchers to put forth a cogent scientific argument in the press; an attempt gobbled up wholesale by the media phalanx. “In particular, we do encounter some cases of very short penile length, and then we need to decide whether they should be raised as a girl or a boywhether they need to have a sexual reversal,” said Cheng.

Is this for real? Is one of the aims of this study to help Cheng decide if and when to lop off a penis should it be smaller than she would like? And how does this quest relate to race? I imagine she might spare a baby his appendage if she knew that, despite his shortcomings, the child conformed to his race’s aggregate endowment or lack thereof. Goes to show that not all correlations are worthy of study.

There have been a couple of devastating experiments in medical history in which doctors have removed a child’s penis because it had been damaged, and proceeded to fashion in its place female genitalia. Pumped with female hormones and taught to play with Barbie, these children were viewed as textbook successes. But whittling down what it means to be male to the presence or absence of a male organ proved arrogant. The reassigned children were often doomed to a life of desperation brought on because a hard-wired gender identity had been tampered with. At heart, the physician-created girls were still boys. “We do not recommend such imposed sex reassignment regardless of penile condition,” wrote Milton Diamond Ph.D. and Keith Sigmundson MD in a 1997 paper for “Archives, Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine.”

In the wake of the rising controversy, Dr. Chanoinen stuck steadfast to his claim that by measuring their penises he was merely looking out for the health of the infants, so he threw into the medical voodoo his concern for the worst case scenario. What if he missed hypoglycemia and seizures brought on by hormonal deficiencies? Let’s follow the Chanoinen algorithm: When baby isn’t thriving what do you do? Why, you reach for the Penile-Race Chart, of course. “Ah, baby is Asian hmmm… and its penis is still smaller than the mean average suggested in my chart, then let me check for hypoglycemia”. Why not just throw some bones on the table and see what the ancestral spirits say?

The National Post missed the whole issue completely, insinuating that the good doctor was the casualty of a political correctness, which disallows research involving racial characteristics. Making the case for the shoddy inquiry, the Post extrapolated the connection between race and penis size to the fit of condoms and the prevention of AIDS. So now we have moved from the violation of the dignity of babies in B.C., to the politics of the World Health Organization. Without going into details, I suspect condom manufacturers have pretty much got a grip on the size thing and do not need to take into consideration B.C.’s demographics.

Here’s a more useful avenue of inquiry for our medical boneheads: What about testing the connection between small penises and a dictatorial personality? This, you would agree, is a matter for the B.C. Human Rights Kangaroo Commission. While the Commission would not wish to extend special protection to the minimally endowed, it would nonetheless be eager to know if there are any little chauvinists being hothoused in our backyards; the type of male who, fueled by inferiority, is capable of human rights violations.

Why not preempt such a scenario and make it mandatory for an infant, singled out for his small penis, to sign up for an education initiative intended to weed out any defiance caused by the frustrations of a diminished manhood. Something akin to the post World War II denazification programs. Herein lies the true social value of Drs. Chanoinene and Cheng’s proposal. It is certainly no more a reductio ad absurdum than measuring the penis size of a child alongside his race.

Source: Mercer, Ilana. 1999. Of Pinheads And Penis Sizes. http://www.ilanamercer.com/JS9.htm [accessed: 2013-04-25].

It earned a mention on Discover Magazine’s NCBI ROFL which lists stupid/questionable research. They even have an expansive list of penis related studies, well worth the laugh.

Recommended Links Ild

Child Tracking and Monitoring: KidGuard

How Not to Report News or Why the US media is a racist European enclave

Yellow Peril and the American Dream

Seeing the Positives Only: Supposed “Hot Asian American Guys” on TV

  • Walking Dead: Feminized East Asian male who is also the willing victim of racism
  • The Neighbors: Alien in East Asian male body is used as a proxy to continue the Hollywood feminization of East Asian males
  • Go On: Bagger Vancian East Asian male
  • The Mindy Project: Creating another stereotype of the sexually available Indian female [for European males only] who fantasizes about European male penises [literally] and dates European males
  • Community: Danni Pudi is Indian/Polish i.e. not Asian
  • How exactly do 4 ‘Asians’ = take over TV?

More discussion on how worldview colours the interpretation of data for creationism and evolution and how speciation is not evidence for macro-evolution

Dale J. Stephens tells you what’s wrong with modern education:

I left college two months ago because it rewards conformity rather than independence, competition rather than collaboration, regurgitation rather than learning and theory rather than application. Our creativity, innovation and curiosity are schooled out of us. Failure is punished instead of seen as a learning opportunity. We think of college as a stepping-stone to success rather than a means to gain knowledge. College fails to empower us with the skills necessary to become productive members of today’s global entrepreneurial economy.

Careful how you use science Mr. Atheist

The Pornography Culture by David Hart

Recommended reading for atheists: Atheist Delusions: The Christian Revolution and its Fashionable Enemies by David Hart (2009)

Recommended Film: The Sorcerer and the White Snake (2011): a beautiful supernatural Chinese love story (dir. Ching Siu-tung)

Is abortion murder? Yes it is. Using mainly primary school science, the argument goes like this:

There are 3 natural states: life (plant, bee), non-life (rock, water) and dead (dead leaf, dead bee) which makes a process of elimination feasible. A zygote is the result of two forms of life (sperm, ovum). Thus a zygote is clearly not non-life. Is the zygote dead? No, because it exhibits GRIMNER [http://quizlet.com/13974968/biology-flash-cards/] and natural development. The zygote can die if the energy source ends (mother dies). Thus the zygote is life (or alive) as it can die and has been produced by life. But is it human? Yes, as it is produced only from human DNA stores (sperm, ovum). Thus the zygote is a human life.

A level-headed discussion on homosex marriage from Askthebigot’s blog.

Racist Media Hebrews

The top list (the first ten movies/TV serials) was sent to Dr. Michael Brown [who impresses me as a scholar of considerable intellectual range] of AskDrBrown.org for comment. Unfortunately he has not done so but to his credit, previously tackled the question of racist Hollywood Hebrews but asked for a list of examples which is below.

Some examples of Hebrew writers, directors and producers who allowed or created racial stereotypes in their movies/TV shows. [1]

  1. House M.D. (2004-2012): Created by David Shore. Dr. House decided to become a doctor because of Japanese racism against the Burakumin. [update: actors Lisa Edelstein and Peter Jacobson, Hebrew character Robert Sean Leonard].
  2. Alias (2001-2006): Created by J.J. Abrams. Sadistic Chinese torturer who specializes in teeth removal. [update: actors Kevin Weisman, Victor Garber, Michael Vartan, Greg Grunberg, Ron Rifkin, executive producer Ken Olin].
  3. The Nanny (1993-1999): Created by Fran Drescher. Makes a joke about the eyes of the Chinese attending a funeral.
  4. The Delta Force (1986): Directed by Menahem Golan. Arab terrorists hijack a plane. [update: actor Martin Balsam, Joey Bishop, Susan Strasberg, Lainie Kazan].
  5. Rising Sun (1993): Written and directed by Phillip Kaufman. The Japanese are anti-African racists who lust for blond European prostitutes, Japanese businessmen represent economic ‘yellow peril’ and are “ruthless, aggressive people intent on getting their way in business through blackmail, extortion and even murder.” [update: actor Harvey Keitel].
  6. Bonanza (1959-1973): Created by David Dortort. Chinese coolies, Chinese general has his henchman commit murder and thinks of a Chinese female as his “property,” Chinese cook Hop Sing pronounces “three” as ‘flea’ and “dollar” as ‘dolla’. Sing and his cousins are introduced with gongs and serenaded with so-called ‘oriental’ music. Also includes Mexican bandits and “primitive and proud” Native Americans. [update: actors Lorne Greene, Michael Landon].
  7. Pawnee (1957): Written by Endre Bohem. Native Americans portrayed as savages.
  8. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984): Directed by Steven Spielberg. Evil Chinese gangster, token East Asian sidekick who gets killed, Indians perform human sacrifices, rich Indians eat snakes stuffed with smaller snakes, monkey brains, soup with monkey eyes and large beetles. [update: actor Harrison Ford].
  9. Banshee (2013 ): Created by Jonathan Tropper. East Asian hairdresser-drag queen i.e. the effeminate Asian male stereotype.
  10. Sex and the City (2008): Created by Darren Star. An East Asian male comes to an interview in a suit and pink high heels, the effeminate Asian male stereotype [update: associate producer Amy B. Harris, actors Sarah Jessica Parker, Evan Handler, David Eigenberg, Lynn Cohen].

Updates:

  1. Chelsea Lately (2007 – ): Host/writer Chelsea Handler. Insinuates that East Asian males have small penises and in another episode, that African males have large penises (which she desires).
  2. Cloud AtlasCloud Atlas (2012): Directors/writers Andy Wachowski, Lana Wachowski. Multiple instances of yellowface.
  3. Fargo (1996): Written and directed by Joel Coen and Ethan Coen. Effeminate, model-minority East Asian male living with his parents, lies to a European female in an attempt to get pity sex while stalking another European female.
  4. Two and a Half Men (2003 – ): Chuck Lorre is the creator. Uni-directional romance with four different East Asian females.
  5. Fast and the Furious (2001): Director Rob Cohen, producer Neal H. Moritz. Violent East Asian gangsters and mentioned uni-directional romance.
  6. Aladdin (1992): Original anti-Arab musical score lyrics from Howard Ashman and composed by Alan Menken. By what stretch of logic does “Where they cut off your ear if they don’t like your face” fit into a children’s cartoon movie? Voice of Aladdin character was played by Scott Weinger. Produced by Disney [Chairman Michael Eisner].
  7. Mexicali Shmoes (1959): Director Isadore Freleng, Mel Blanc voices both Speedy Gonzalez and Jose characters. Stereotypical Mexican (lazy, slow, dim-witted) mouse Slowpoke Rodriguez.
  8. Mexican Boarders (1962): Director Isadore Freleng, Mel Blanc voice Speedy Gonzalez character. Stereotypical Mexican (lazy, slow, dim-witted) mouse Slowpoke Rodriguez.
  9. Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (1993-1995): Created by Haim Saban and Shuki Levy. Stars evil sorceress Rita Repulsa as “yellow peril,” the yellow ranger starring a female East Asian stereotype (martial artist, compassionate, intelligent, honour-bound, non-Asian romantic interest) and the black ranger starring an African-American male stereotype (likes sports, dance, girls, has his own fighting style named hip hop kido).
  10. Six Days Seven Nights (1998): Directed by Ivan Reitman. Latina married to a European seduces another European male (Latina harlot stereotype and clown stereotype).
  11. Latin Lovers (1953): Directed by Mervyn LeRoy, screenplay by Isobal Lennart.The Latin Lover stereotype.
  12. The Inn of the Sixth Happiness (1958): Written by Isobel Lennart, she changes the original story of a romance between a Chinese man and the chief European female protagonist making the Chinese man into a more acceptable Eurasian with a Chinese surname despite having a Dutch father.
  13. Kung Fu (1972-1975): Created by Ed Spielman, oriental monk, martial arts stereotype, magical Asian stereotype, yellow face with makeup/prosthetics.
  14. Kung Fu: The Legend Continues (1993-1997): Created by Ed Spielman, writer Reuben Leder, spin off of Kung Fu (1972-1975), oriental monk, martial arts, eastern mysticism stereotypes, magical Asian stereotype, yellow face with makeup/prosthetics.
  15. Kung Fu: The Movie (1986): Created by Ed Spielman.
  16. Kung Fu: The Next Generation (1987): Created by Ed Spielman.
  17. The Last Ninja (1983): Written by Ed Spielman, The last ninja is a European male, ninja stereotypes, magical Asian stereotype.
  18. Alice (1990): Directed and written by Woody Allen, oriental herbalist with magical powers complete with “stereotypical “oriental” music and opium den darkness” (Iwamura 2005).
  19. Lone Ranger (2013): Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. Tired American stereotypes with a European in redface.
  20. China Seas (1935): Screenplay by Jules Furthman, Paul Bern as story contributor, associate producer Albert Lewin and executive producer Irving Thalberg. One of the early Hollywood movies where multiple Chinese, Indians and Europeans are deceived that multiple unattractive Malay pirates in Hong Kong were Chinese women [movie clip here].
  21. The Left Hand of God (1955): Screenplay by Alfred Hayes. Starring Lee J. Cobb in yellow-face with ‘slanted’ eyes and ‘inscrutable’ Asian voice.
  22. Lethal Weapon 4 (1988): Characters written by Shane Black and Jonathan Lenkin, directed and produced by Richard Donner. “Jet Li plays an Asian villain character who is in charge of smuggling illegal labor force from China, drug dealings and assigned killings, among other things. When his Chinatown-based operation is discovered by two Los Angeles police officers, played by a Caucasian and a Black actor, the chase is on to capture the villain. The end results favored the good guys, of course. Often have other movie producers used this stereotypical movie plot to increase the suspense and sensationalism of the movie. Asian men are seen as violent, inhuman, property destroyers, and kill mercilessly. This Asian-male-gangster image glorifies male aggression beyond the point of rational.” (Mahdzan & Ziegler n.d.) [2]
  23. Lost (2004-2010): Created by JJ Abrams and Damon Lindelof. Angry, domineering Korean husband, submissive Korean wife, implied Afro-male-Korean female relationship, implication that Koreans are violent anti-African racists (Kim 2005), “Season 3’s episode Stranger in A Strange Land, guest starring Bai Ling, manages to portray every ugly stereotype of a Southeast Asian country as seen through a white male tourist – and not in a way that was remotely critical or even interesting” (Phi 2009).
  24. Pointman (1995): S02E04, series created by Joel Surnow, episode written by Shelly Goldstein, a rich Chinese man thinks the world of himself and offers to purchase a European female. When she refuses, he then tries to rape her but is foiled in the nick of time by European male protagonist Connie Harper (Jack Scalia). Afterwards, someone explains to Connie that East Asians customarily treat women as sexual objects and exert power through sexual exploitation.
  25. Girls (2012- ): Created by Lena Dunham, executive producer Judd Apatow, co-exec producer Bruce Eric Kaplan. An unseen East Asian woman is said to be the sexmate of a European male, stereotypical African, East Asian and Hispanic characters.
  26. 2 1/2 Men (2003- ): Created by Lee Aronsohn and Chuck Lorre. Asian female homosexual Whitney (played by Eurasian Lindsay Price), referenced Korean manicurist is said to have run away with a married trailer-trash European male, social/mental European retard Jake thinks about marriage to a referenced “Wendy Chow,” Ming Wa Wen plays a judge who has sexes European males Charlie and Gary (Matt McKenzie).
  27. The Big Bang Theory (2007 – ): Created by Chuck Lorre and Bill Prady, stars Simon Helberg, Mayim Bialik, Kevin Sussman, Sara Gilbert and Melissa Rauch. In S03E22, North Korean spy Joyce Kim almost sexes European male Leonard in an attempt to attain military secrets. Leonard also sexes a South Indian female Priya.
  28. Mike & Molly (2010 – ): written by Chuck Lorre. In S01E11, African male Carl sexes a Korean female (not shown), Asian stereotypes ensue.
  29. Dharma & Greg (2000): Created by Chuck Lorre, teleplay by Bill Prady. In S03E17, elderly Dr. Gillespie (Tom Poston) reminiscences about having vigorous sex with a Filipino woman when he was younger. He says that she had a tattoo of a plane on her back and could move certain muscles to make the plane appear as if in mid-air. He also refers to her as ‘very gentle’ while he was being ‘vigorous’ during sex. In other episodes there’s an Asian mail order bride, the accented character Susan Wong, the Latina maid Celia and the spiritist American George.
  30. Joey (2005): Directed by Kevin Bright, created by Shana Goldberg-Meehan. In S01E14, Lauren Beck (Lucy Liu) has a European ex-boyfriend Martin (Jeff Bryan Davis) and sexes European male Joey (Matt LeBlanc).
  31. A Majority of One (1961): Directed by Mervyn LeRoy. Features Alec Guinness in Japanese yellow face, “… presents an Americanized Asian in Japan who is remarkably similar in appearance to the ones in San Francisco’s Chinatown. The movie stars Rosalind Russell as a Jewish mother who moves to Japan to be with her daughter and diplomat son-in-law. There she is given a “number one boy” who has a lengthy Japanese name but is introduced with the words “we call him Eddie.” In the character of Eddie, we find a combination of Charlie and the Americanized Asian, with a dash of the diabolical.” (see more, Kashiwabara 1996).
  32. Just Shoot Me (1997-2003): Created by Steven Levitan. See entry here.
  33. The Neighbors (2012- ): Created by Dan Fogelman, see entry here.
  34. CoalBlackDeSebbenDwarfs.murder japs freeCoal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs (1943): Mel Blanc voices the seven stereotyped African dwarfs. The evil queen sends Murder Incorporated to kill Snow White and they are willing to kill “Japs” for “free.”
  35. Which is Witch (1949): Directed by Friz Freleng, African witch doctor I.C. Spots voiced by Mel Blanc, produced by Warner Brothers.
  36. The Scarlet Clue (1945): Directed by Phil Rosen. Stars European Sidney Toler in yellow face.
  37. Charlie Chan in the Secret Service (1944): Directed by Phil Rosen. Stars European Sidney Toler in yellow face.
  38. Charlie Chan in The Chinese Cat (1944): Directed by Phil Rosen. Stars European Sidney Toler in yellow face.
  39. Call of the Jungle (1944): Directed by Phil Rosen. Story about European lives in the South Sea where the superstitious natives are near rebellion because of a murder and the theft of their sacred jewels.
  40. Black Magic (1944): Directed by Phil Rosen. Stars European Sidney Toler in yellow face.
  41. The Jade Mask (1945): Directed by Phil Rosen. Stars European Sidney Toler in yellow face.
  42. The Red Dragon (1945): Directed by Phil Rosen. Stars European Sidney Toler in yellow face.
  43. Prisoner of Japan (1942): Written by Edgar G. Ulmer, produced by Seymour Nebenzal, Ernst Deutsch plays Japanese secret agent Matsuru. The film claimed to be “An Expose of the Jap Menace!”
  44. Texas Across the River (1966): Directed by Michael Gordon, Joey Bishop in red- face as Kronk, sidekick to a European male.
  45. Shanghai Express (1932): Directed by Josef von Sternberg (Jonas Sternberg), produced by Adolph Zukor, screenplay by Jules Furthman. Distributed by Paramount Pictures. European Warner Oland plays a sadistic, self-hating Eurasian warlord (hates his European ancestry [hence his sadism is derived from his Chinese identification], father is European [uni-directional romance], miscegenation fear-mongering #1) who is beaten up by a European male (feminization) when he tries to rape a European prostitute (miscegenation fear-mongering #2) [even European prostitutes are too good for Eurasian males and need to be ‘saved’ by European males], rapes a Chinese female (bestial stereotype) and coerces a European female into sex (miscegenation fear-mongering #3), “evil warlords and perverse half-castes” (Greene 2014). Quotes: “You’re in China now, sir, where time and life have no value.” and “What future is there in bein’ a Chinaman? You’re born, eat your way through a handful of rice, and you die. What a country! Let’s have a drink!”
  46. King Solomon’s Mines (1950): Directed by Andrew Marton (Endre Márton). Racist British imperialist drivel about European romance in Africa complete with African cannibals.
  47. The Hard Times of RJ Berger (2010): Creators/executive producers David Katzenberg and Seth Grahame-Smith. Hebrewpean male RJ Berger has so large a penis that during fellatio by a Japanese exchange student, she was almost choked to death (Mangan 2010). Subsequently, she is terrified of RJ and runs away when she sees him.
  48. The Carrie Diaries (2013): Created by Amy B. Harris. In the pilot, East Asian female Jill Thompson (Ellen Wong) is said to have given her virginity to Seth Glassman (probably Hebrewpean). She describes the process as putting a ‘hotdog into a keyhole’ and “it hurt so bad!” In another scene there is a homosexual African male with a European boyfriend (double minority trope).
  49. The Thief of Bagdad (1924): Story by Douglas Fairbanks, produced by Douglas Fairbanks. In yellow peril fashion, a Mongol prince wants to conquer Bagdad using the ruse of seeking marriage with the caliph’s daughter. Ahmed (Fairbanks) foils the Mongol’s plot and saves the princess and the caliphate.
  50. You Only Live Twice (1967): Produced by Harry Saltzman. Sean Connery in yellow face. “The message of the James Bond film You Only Live Twice (1967) is that “no Orientals are to be trusted and that the Japanese may well rise again.”” (Kashiwabara 1996).
  51. Vanishing Son (1995): Creator, writer and executive producer Rob Cohen. Line Producer Michael Bernstein (assumed Hebrew). Stereotypical East Asians. See Kashiwabara (1996).
  52. Rush Hour I (1998), Rush Hour II (2001), Rush Hour III (2007): Directed by Brett Ratner, producers Roger Birnbaum and Jonathan Glickman, executive producers Michael De Luca and Toby Emmerich. Uses non-Europeans to make racist statements about each other for the voyeuristic satiation of European audiences. Shin (2008) states “It is ironic that while the theme of Rush Hour is reconciliation between two different cultures and races, it reproduces the racial stereotypes. It presents Carter as a hypersexual black womanizer vs. Lee as a feminized asexual Asian, which is a typical assumption about black and Asian masculinities.”
  53. Lethal Weapon 4 (1998): Directed by Richard Donner (Richard Schwartzberg), writer Jonathan Lemkin, producer Joel Silver. Uses stereotypes of violent Chinese males, effeminate Chinese males (man beaten by a martial arts wielding Nordic female in late pregnancy, Jet Li referenced with “Enter the Drag Queen” [i.e. violent Chinese masculinity = an effeminate ‘performance’]), puns from accents and the dirty chinaman trope (elderly man sleeps with his wife’s sister). From Mahdzan & Ziegler (n.d.): “Asian men are seen as violent, inhuman, property destroyers, and kill mercilessly. This Asian-male-gangster image glorifies male aggression beyond the point of rational.”
  54. The Indian in the Cupboard (1995): Directed by Frank Oz. The noble savage stereotype reducing a grown American man to an accidental magical creation of a young European ‘God’ (Morris 1995).
  55. Saturday Night Live (1978-): Created by Lorne Michaels (Lorne Lipowitz), many staffers and writers are known Hebrews (Grove 2013) as well as actors (Al Franken, Adam Sandler, Chris Kattan, Robert Smigel, Seth Meyers, Andy Breckman, Maya Rudolph, Rob Schneider, Sarah Silverman, Andy Samberg, Neil Levy, Rachel Dratch, Jon Lovitz, Alan Zweibel, Billy Crystal, Laura Kightlinger, Jeff Goldblum, Robert Downey Jr., Gilbert Gottfried, Paul Simon, Andy Kaufman, Frank Oz, Ben Stiller, Elliott Gould, Adam Levine, Scarlett Johansson, Jack Black, Jerry Seinfeld, Gwyneth Paltrow, Paul Rudd, Seth Rogen, James Franco, David Duchovny, etc). “SNL seems committed to aggressively continuing to push images of Black women as incompetent, rude, hypersexual and financially dependent. Frankly, we’re tired of this disrespect…….Further, it’s critical to note that the callous, monolithic representations of Black people peddled by SNL and others have alarming real-world impacts. Media depictions of Black individuals, families and communities irrefutably shape how we’re perceived in society.” (quote of Rashad Robinson from Couch 2013). It’s not much better for East Asians either (Guillermo 2012).
  56. hardly workingHardly Working (1980): Directed, written and starring Jerry Lewis (Joseph Levitch). Levitch stars as a yellow-faced buck-tooth Japanese chef spouting gems such as “You going to rove it,” “You say you want slimp stake …,” and “I am a brack and blue belt …”
  57. MADtv (1995-2009): Alex Borstein is a stereotypical “Asian manicurist” Ms. Kwan, complete with Asianesque accent. The name is later changed to Ms Swan (Narasaki 2001).
  58. Taken (2008): Overweight, elderly Arab sex slaver Sheik Raman played by non-Arab (Egyptian) Nabil Massad. Written by Robert Mark Kamen.taken
  59. Bridge on the River Kwai (1957): Written by Carl Foreman, produced by Sam Spiegel. “Other stereotypes of Asians are called upon in this Oscar-winning film, although many are simply noted in passing. For example, even though there are no women at the POW camp, Japanese lechery for white women is made apparent by a calendar of bodacious blondes in their barracks. Outside the camp, silent Asian women carry equipment for the American played by William Holden. Although it makes little or no sense in the context of the film, the Asian women end up bathing him. For his part, Holden notes their silence with satisfaction. Thus while not a major element in the film, ethnicized gender roles are maintained. The White man maintains that the Asian man is lecherous and the Asian woman, a submissive fantasy” (Kashiwabara 1996).
  60. muniThe Good Earth (1937): Paul Muni (Meshilem Weisenfreund) plays Wang, Luise Rainer plays O-Lan (a part which Anna May Wong desired), associate producers Albert Lewin and Irving Thalberg, Tilly Losch as Lotus.
  61. Ben Hur (1959): Welshman Hugh Griffith is tanned to become a dark-brown skinned Arab. Directed by William Wyler.
  62. Breakfast at Tiffany’s (1961): Written by George Axelrod, Martin Balsam as O.J. Berman, producer Richard Shepherd [Richard Allen Silberman], yellowface with other East Asian stereotypes.
  63. Game of Thrones (2011- ): Creators and directors David Benioff and Daniel Brett Weiss. Yellowface, bagger vance, pink saviour, African emasculation, brown savages, token Afropeans.
  64. Surviving Jack (2014 – ): In the pilot episode, European male Jack (Christopher Meloni) states that he kissed a “Filipino nurse with a giant ass” and that “she was sloppy”. Writer/director Justin Samuel Halpern.
  65. japGillgan’s Island (1964-1967): In S01E15 ‘So Sorry, My Island Now’, a European male plays a Japanese soldier (ethnic male threat) with thick glasses, problem pronouncing the letter R and is beaten by an uber-feminine female in 17 seconds (uber-feminization of ethnic male). The storyline insinuates that he knows he is ugly. Other episodes had primitive Pacific Islanders and demure slaves. Directed by Alan Crosland Jr., starring Natalie Schafer, series creator/executive producer Sherwood Schwartz, producer Jack Arnold (Jack Arnold Waks).
  66. Olympus Has Fallen (2013): North Korean (yellow peril) invasion of the U.S. Production company: Millennium Films (Israeli owned), executive producer Avinoam Lerner, co-executive producer Guy Avshalom, executive producer Boaz Davidson, producer Danny Lerner, etc
  67. U.S. Seals II (2001): Uni-directional romance (and death). Director Isaac Florence (Yitzhak Florentin), story by Boaz Davidson, screenplay by Michael D. Weiss (assumed Hebrew).
  68. The King Maker (2005): Exalted European male in exotic locale with uni-directional romance. Produced by David Winters.
  69. char_42355The Great De Gaulle Stone Operation (1965): Distributed by Mirisch Films (owned by three Hebrew brothers), directed/produced by Isadore Freleng, voice of Solomon Hersh Frees (Paul Frees) for character named “Weft/Wight/Wong” who is a black-skinned, single bodied, three-headed villain. The middle head is Chinese with buck teeth and slanted eyes. His name is Wong and speaks accented making “Confusion says” comments (not Confucius but a play on the word ‘confusion’). The other heads are named Weft (Left) and White (Right) making Wong the “Wrong” head.
  70. ali-wongThe Super 6 (1966-1969): Produced by Isadore Freleng, voiced by Solomon Hersh Frees. In episode 10, the angry violent Arab named Ali Ben Loud Mouth assaults the Siamese triplet Matzoriley. The middle head named “Wong” has severely slanted eyes and spouts “Confusion says” comments.
  71. The Black Widow (1947 serial): Theodore Gottlieb plays the ‘yellow peril’ king Hitomu.
  72. Surviving Jack (2014): In the pilot episode, European male Jack Dunlevy (Christopher Meloni) tells his son of his experience with a Filipino nurse. Executive producer and writer Justin Halpern.
  73. Rhythm on the Reservation (1939): Directed by Dave Fleischer, Betty character voiced by Margie Hines, animator Myron Waldman. Bischoff (2010) states”The episode depicted Native Americans as being unintelligent ­— it showed them speaking in short, incomplete sentences and pounding on their chests to communicate.” From Schmidt (2014): “This cartoon has the usual compendium of racist stereotypes. The worst may be the Tonto talk, the teepees, and the complete ignorance of modern life. This cartoon was set in 1939, when Indians were wearing Western clothes, working in factories, and enlisting in the military. They weren’t dressing in buckskins or blankets and beating tom-toms.”
  74. Platoon (1986): Directed by Oliver Stone. “… white and black soldiers vow to take revenge on the Vietnamese communists who have lynched one of their African American brothers-in-arms.” (Locke 2009, 10).
  75. The Family Man (2000): Directed by Brett Ratner, producer Howard Rosenman, executive producer Armyan Bernstein, screenplay by David Weissman, actors Jeremy Piven and Saul Rubinek. “… Nicholas Cage and Don Cheadle begin their eternal friendship over an argument with an immigrant Asian grocery clerk.” (Locke 2009, 10).
  76. Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects (1989): Written by Harold Nebenzal, distributed by Cannon Films [owned by Menahem Golan and  Yoram Globus]. The Japanese are portrayed as sexual deviants, a threat to European womanhood and invading the US.
  77. eJ4P3po24zmokvUT5livrOsvLoKFirst Yank Into Tokyo (1945): Directed by Gordon Douglas, executive producer Jack Jerome Gross, makeup artist Maurice Seiderman. A US European agent undergoes plastic surgery to make him look Japanese so he can infiltrate Japan and help to free a POW. Posters stated: “One Man invasion of Jap Homeland!” and “See the Secret that Crossed-up the JAPS!” From the American Film Institute: “When the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima on 6 Aug 1945, approximately five months after filming was completed, the script was rewritten to include footage of the attack on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the closing narration extolling the virtues of the bomb was added.”
  78. Making Stars (1935): Directed by Dave Fleischer, produced by Max Fleischer, voices by Mae Kwestel (Mae Questel), animator Lillian Friedman Astor. Stars a US European drummer baby who is pacified by a bottle of milk, followed by a Russian female baby named “Little Miss Trotsky” (with stereotypical Russian musical riff) who stops crying on seeing a candy cane. Then come a trio of African sambo babies who stop crying when shown watermelon, another African baby being pacified by a slice of watermelon, then a Chinese baby with a (hair) queue who is a juggler/marksman (with stereotypical Chinese riff). He is not pacified however, but runs away crying.
  79. The Karate Kid (1984): Written by Robert Mark Kamen, produced by Jerry Weintraub. An elderly Japanese male is bagger vance to a European boy. “Despite the fact that Mr. Miyagi was an American WWII veteran, he was still portrayed speaking English with a foreign accent (Wong). The myth that all Asian men know some form of martial arts was also stressed in this movie when Mr. Miyagi surprises Daniel (the white male leading actor) with his karate moves after appearing passive and bashful during the first portions of the film. It reminds people to be aware of Asian men in general because passivity may not appear to be what it seems.” (Mahdzan & Ziegler n.d.)
  80. The Shanghai Gesture (1941): “scheming Chinese dragon ladies” (Greene 2014) who is a Manchu princess dispossessed for being sexed by an Englishman, kills her Eurasian daughter and owns an opium den/casino where Chinese females can be found in cages, two Europeans actors in Chinese-face, European actress in Eurasian-face, lines such as “you like Chinese New Year?“, uni-directional miscegenation, anti-(Chinese)miscegenation. Directed by Josef von Sternberg (Jonas Sternberg), initial US script by Arnold Pressburger (Aldgate and Robertson 2005), produced by Arnold Pressburger Films.
  81. The Mountain Road (1960): Unidirectional miscegenation. The Chinese are portrayed as “treacherous “allies”” (Greene 2014). Based on a novel by Theodore H. White, written by Alfred Hayes, directed by Daniel Mann (Daniel Chugerman), produced by William Goetz and William Goetz Productions.
  82. Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold (1986): Produced by Yoram Globus and Menachem Golan. Line producer Michael Greenburg and executive producer Avi Lerner. Contains “…highly derogatory portrayals of Africans.” (Falola & Agwuele 2009).
  83. Pearl Harbor (2001): Director and producer Michael Bay, producer Jerry Bruckheimer. “… tells the story of Doolittle’s daring payback raid on Japan during WW2 and how the pilots deliberately crashlanded in China, assuming correctly that the populace would help them to safety. However, the quarter-of-a-million Chinese civilians who either unwittingly died or willingly scarificed (sic) themselves as a consequence of sheltering the few dozen American aircrews and bringing virtually all of them them to safety are not so much as given an honorable mention in the ending credits.” (Keith 2013).
  84. Munich (2005): Director/producer By Steven Spielberg, screenwriters Tony Kushner and Eric Roth, producer Barry Mendel. “Simply by the way it was conceptualized, Munich couldn’t be anything but propaganda. The premise of the movie necessitates this. Propaganda begins by deciding what is going to be left out of the film. The film by the fact that it is called Munich gives the impression that the cycle of violence started in 1972 and that the Palestinians started it. Left out of the film is the fact that hundreds of Palestinian civilians had been murdered when Israel jets attacked their refugee camp in February 1972, which is to say seven months before the Olympic attack. Munich is a movie about the rules of Jewish discourse. It is also a movie about how giving the wrong answer to a Jew will result in your death or the death of your career.” (Jones 2012)
  85. Mission Impossible (S05E07): Leonard Nimoy plays Kabuki performer Nakamura Taizo, directed by Gerald Mayer.
  86. Know Your Enemy: Japan (1945): Written by Carl Foreman. The film is described as “a potpourri of most of the English speaking world’s dominant clichés about the Japanese enemy, excluding the crudest, most vulgar, and most blatantly racist.” (Dover 1986).
  87. Seinfeld (S09E17): Opium (grown in India, used by the British to drug the Chinese) is referred to as “Chinaman’s nightcap”. Rosalyn Weinman (NBC’s executive vice president for broadcast standards and content policy), actors Jerry Seinfeld, Julia Louis-Dreyfus and Jason Alexander.
  88. The Social Network (2010): Screenplay by Aaron Sorkin, based on book by Ben Mezrich, producers Scott Rudin and Michael De Luca, actors Jesse Eisenberg, Andrew Garfield, Armie Hammer. “… the film depicts Asian women so promiscuously in both sense of the word—Christy and Alice, played by Brenda Song and Malese Jow, are depicted as sexually aggressive, approaching Mark and Eduardo during a lecture, asking them out for a drink, and eventually performing fellatio on Mark and Eduardo in adjoining stalls in a Cambridge pub bathroom …” (Nakamura 2011).
  89. The Wolf of Wall Street (2013): A character is called the “depraved Chinaman” while the actual Hebrewpean characters are purposely scrubbed of their Hebrew ancestry and no derogatory terms hurled in their direction. Director Martin Scorsese also Christianizes the chief Hebrewpean thief (Jordan Belfort) to make the movie palpable to Hollywood’s Hebraic censors. Speaking of this movie, Eshman (2013) states that: “Scorsese feels much safer depicting the Italian-ness of his violent mobsters than the Jewishness of his greedy con men.”
  90. Life (2017): Writer Paul Wernick, producers Dana Goldberg, David Ellison, actor Jake Gyllenhaal. Japanese male character feminized.

NOTES

[1] Does not include Hebrews who are hiding or hid their ethnic identity, nor does it mention Hebrew actors in every movie with racist stereotypes unless said actor is the stereotype. [2] The movie is actually much more racist that this snippet would indicate.

SOURCES:

East Asians and Testosterone I

UPDATE: East Asians and Testosterone II

Hays (2011) states:

North Asians have lower levels of muscle-building testosterone than Europeans. Some Asian athletes have taken testosterone-like steroids as “a way of leveling the playing field.”

He provides no source for either claim. Mail sent to Mr. Hays on March 15, 2013 remain unanswered. Not to be outdone, Kelsey (2008) further states:

The reason basically for Asian men being more feminine in physical appearance is because of they produce more estrogen than men of other racial groups. Asian women are more feminine in appearance because they produce more estrogen than other women. This estrogen also influences personality and emotions this makes Asian men display characteristics that often are associated with women.

Some of the characteristics are they keep emotions hidden well meaning it can be difficult to tell when an Asian man is angry. The more testosterone a man produce the more he will show his emotions of anger, joy, sadness, happiness, etc. The less testosterone a man produces the more he is able to keep his emotions hidden.

But when he has kept these emotions hidden for a long time and bottled up whether these emotions are positive or negative when they come out they will manifest very strongly. The estrogen allows Asian men and women to look younger for many years example a 40 year old Asian man who looks 27 years old.

The claim of lower East Asian testosterone (T) levels is now a race realist marker of “race” or race difference. The European race realist asserts three main ethnic androgen hypotheses with some corollary hypotheses.

Main hypotheses:

  • African males have the highest testosterone level
  • European males have an intermediate testosterone level
  • East Asian males have the lowest testosterone level

Corollary hypotheses:

  • Indo-Aryan or South Asian males have low testosterone levels but higher than East Asians [despite not following from the main hypotheses]
  • Middle Eastern males have high testosterone levels but not as high as Africans
  • Indigenous American males have lower testosterone levels but higher than  Indo-Aryans
  • Latin American males have levels commensurate with their respective Asiatic-American and African admixture (for most instances, higher than Americans)

Data is available for each of these groups though lacking for Americans, Indo-Aryans and Latin Americans. The (general) race realist T-ranking from highest to lowest:

  1. African
  2. Middle Easterner
  3. European
  4. Latino
  5. Native American
  6. Indo-Aryan
  7. East Asian

BACKGROUND

To race realists, when East Asian males are passive, it is because they have the lowest testosterone levels which cause their genitals to be deformed such that they have the smallest lengths, girths, testicular weight and sperm production. When East Asian males are aggressive, it is because they are annoyed that they have low testosterone which causes their genitals to be deformed such that they have the smallest lengths, girths, testicular weight and sperm production. It is a ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ stereotype.

Trying to hide this behind a scientific veneer, Jean Philippe Rushton uses the incidence of prostate cancer to assert that since it is high in Americans of African descent, lower in Americans of European descent and lowest in East Asians, it is mainly due to testosterone differences. The problem is that he conveniently focuses on only three groups which he also conveniently defines. His “Caucasoid” grouping does not include Semites and Aryans. His “Mongoloid” group does not include Euro-Americans (Latinos) and indigenous Americans. His “Negroid” group includes US Afropeans but not Dravidians (South Asians) and those with Negrito ancestry such as Malays, which he includes in his “Mongoloid” group.

If he were to have found a race realist revolutionary update to Darwinian evolution as he asserts, then he would have found that Arabs (Saudis, Omanis and Kuwaitis) also have very low prostate cancer rates and that Afro-Zimbabweans have lower levels of prostate cancer than Euro-Zimbabweans, Germans, Australians and US Europeans and a bit lower rate than the Welsh (Kehinde et al. 2005). Contra Eurocentric race realism, Strahm et al. (2009) states in referring to Satner et al. (1998) that:

Comparative studies of Caucasian and Chinese subjects living either in the USA or in China provided strong evidence that environmental/dietary, but not genetic, factors influence androgen production.

Miller et al. (1985) found that “[t]estosterone did not differ with ethnic group” when studying Trinidadian men of African and Indo-Aryan descent. Even among rapists and child molesters, most had normal T levels except for those who were the most violent. Rada, Laws and Kellner (1976) further states that:

There was no correlation between age, race, or length of incarceration and plasma testosterone level.

Rushton had previously proposed the ‘principle of aggregation’ where he would aggregate data to minimize bias. He is correct that data aggregation can minimize bias. He is incorrect in his poor choice of data in the first place (but I digress). Applying his own principle of aggregation, what follow is a meta-analysis of over 150 peer-reviewed articles on hormone levels in different ethnic groups to see if his hypothesis is correct (at least according to the available data).

RESULTS

T-resultsData sources available HERE.

CONCLUSION

proposedT-diffFrom the above tables, it is clear that the race realist assertion is incorrect, whether one looks at the 7 so-called micro ‘races’ or the 3 so-called macro ‘races’. East Asians were found to have the highest average total plasma testosterone (5,673 ρg/mL) followed by Africans (5,442 ρg/mL) and then Europeans (4,992 ρg/mL). Given that the sample size for Africans is smaller (N < 10,000), their relative position may change with more data. Nonetheless, the claim that East Asians have the least testosterone is not supported by scientific data. 

So ladies, if you want a high T male, go to the Philippines (8100 ρg/mL) and find yourself a malnourished, sexually active, 22 year old Filipino; 5 feet 4 inches, 123 lbs, poorly educated and making slightly less than $9 US monthly [Gettler, McDade & Kuzawa (2011)]. Even better, find an Egyptian.

[N.B. Values are liable to be updated if errors detected, self-analysis of data highly recommended before using this hypothesis]

SOURCES:

Gettler, L., McDade, T., and C. Kuzawa. 2011. Cortisol and testosterone in Filipino young adult men: evidence for co-regulation of both hormones by fatherhood and relationship status. American Journal of Human Biology 23(5): 609-620.

Hays, Jeffreys. 2011. Chinese People, Asian Physical Characteristics, Genetics and DNA. http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?itemid=118&catid=4&subcatid=18 [accessed: 2013-04-06]. | New link : http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat4/sub18/item118.html as of 2016-10-19.

Kehinde, E., Akanji, A., Mojiminiyi, O., et al. 2005. Putative role of serum insulin-like growth factor–1 (IGF-1) and IGF binding protein-3 (IGFBP-3) levels in the development of prostate cancer in Arab men. Prostate Cancer and Prostatic Diseases 8: 84–90.

Kelsey, Chance. 2008. Why Do Many White Women Not Date Asian Men? Chancellorfiles blog. http://chancellorfiles.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/why-do-many-white-women-not-date-asian-men [accessed: 2013-04-15].

Miller, G., Wheeler, M., Price, S., et al. 1985. Serum high density lipoprotein subclasses, testosterone and sex-hormone-binding globulin in Trinidadian men of African and Indian descent. Atherosclerosis 55(3): 251-258.

Rada, R., Laws, D., and R. Kellner. 1976. Plasma testosterone levels in the rapist. Psychosomatic Medicine 38(4): 257-268.

Santner, S., Albertson, B., Zhang, G-Y., et al. 1998. Comparative rates of androgen production and metabolism in Caucasian and Chinese subjects. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 83: 2104–2109.

Strahm, E., Sottas, P-E., Schweizer, C., et al. 2009. Steroid profiles of professional soccer players: an international comparative study. British Journal of Sports Medicine 43: 1126-1130.

UPDATE 2013-05-08: A blogger on the race realist AnthroScape blog states:

This PDF file is not to be taken 100% seriously. It obviously lacks measurements of free testosterone, which is arguably more important than total testosterone. Furthermore, extrapolating a table ranking ethnic groups based on testosterone levels is not the best idea, especially when there are different age brackets and methodologies of each of the studies to consider.

Comments:

  • There is no way of accurately determining free testosterone. Even if there was, this would also be irrelevant since bio-availability is prime. Since race realists use total serum testosterone, why is this an issue?
  • One cannot and should not compare different testosterone studies with different measurement methods. However, for the race-realist purpose of aggregating data, there is nothing inherently wrong with what the PDF file lists. If JP Rushton can use a few studies and make wild claims which are then used by the Internet-o-sphere, using 150 independent peer-reviewed sources with large samples is much more scientific than anything similar from the race realist community.
  • The PDF contains all of the above and has a long list of why testosterone measurements can be fickle.
  • Age differences will affect the results but healthy males should have negligible decreases. Assuming a 0.4% annual decline from 5000 pg/ml after age 40, a man at 80 should have 4275 pg/mL, less than a 15% difference if my spreadsheet math is correct. It would have been better to normalize for age. So while the tabled rankings is flawed, the point is that the entire issue is flawed as there is no standard measuring method in the first place. That race realists routinely use flawed data should be the issue but …
  • Do feel free to wade through the tables and references and normalize the data for methodology and age. Good luck on that though.

He further states:

I find it slightly odd that Indians have the highest testosterone levels, although it’s understandable because of the conditions they are living in. …… Social aggression, dominance and high cognition among men, especially visuo-spatial cognition, is correlated with moderate to high testosterone levels. Stress and depression are correlated with lower testosterone levels, as are personality traits such as submission and less aggression.

  • What conditions are Indians living in that make for higher T?
  • Western defined and rated social aggression and dominance will obviously down relegate Easterners. That is simple bias: stacking the definitional deck and insisting that everyone play by said deck.
  • What level of correlation is there? There will always be correlations but only if it is significant can such data be used.

He continues:

…. beard growth, penile size and body hair are indicative of the presence of testosterone (along with the genes which code for such phenotypes) but do not tell whether an individual has high or low testosterone.

I’ve studied human physiology and biochemistry for years so I know what I’m talking about. Genetics play a huge role in determining whether an individual has a beard, has a large or small penis and body hair.

  • Genetically, penis size seems to be determined by in-utero hormone exposure and concentration.
  • However, penile measurements I would say make a flaw in only measuring the outer penile length by multiple methods which differ considerably. If the inner penis is roughly the same length of the outer penis (Saladin & Miller 2004: 1029), then a porn star may simply be an average guy with more outer penis and perhaps, less fat pad and/or weaker suspensory ligaments (i.e. all current measurements do not factor in erection angle).
  • Until there are standardized ultrasound measurements of different ethnic groups, race realists are not being scientific in claiming that there are differences in penile lengths. At best, one may claim differences in perceived lengths, which is obviously unscientific and irrelevant.

Reference: Saladin, K., and L. Miller. 2004. Anatomy & Physiology: The Unity of Form and Function. 3rd ed.  New York, USA: McGraw Hill.

UPDATE 2014-02-06: A blogger on PuaHate.com [dead link] states:

Found the site/guy who uploaded that chart.

Guess what…

Hes….

ASIAN.

https://ethnicmuse.wordpress.com/

Check his great wall of china background, check his posts, most about asians/asia related shit…bet he frauded the data.

Having a Great Wall of China photo and speaking about so-called Asian related issues does not make one an Asian. You are being presumptuous with only that data. If you can find any problem with the data please specify so I can update accordingly. Alternatively, you may perform a study for yourself and post your results for others to critique.

UPDATE 2014-08-31: A blogger named “Boss” from Sluthate.com states:

Europeans live longer and experience T decline. He could’ve limited his studies to account for age, but instead wanted to “aggregate” every study and then claim that it was impossible to do so. When you control methodology and age, this is what you get:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16332934

He quotes from the linked article:

In addition, the Swedes had significantly higher levels of serum testosterone, compared with the Koreans.

If you want to control for age, please do so for all the referenced populations. I don’t see how it is possible to control for age unless I have the original data sets but if you have a method, have at it. One article using two sub-populations do not indicate that East Asian have less T than Europeans as I indicated to a previous commenter.

He continues:

Of course, someone posted that as a comment and he brushed it off, instead referring to his contrived aggregate. Just took a look at that guy’s site. That guy is obsessed with the asian small penis thing. 80% of his site/blog is him discrediting medical studies that show asians to have small penises :lol: What a fucking pathetic loser.

Nowhere in my comment do I refer to aggregation. Aggregation is a race realist method that I am using to show that race realists don’t employ their own method properly. I also gave 5 possible reasons for the Korean/Swede T discrepancy. This blog does not discredit “medical studies that show asians (sic) to have small penises” since I know of no such study. If however you know differently, please leave links in the comments.

Another blogger at race/history/evolution notes blog has a review which views this post poorly. I expected something more substantive but it seems like the reviewer only read the comments and didn’t look at the PDF file which would have dealt with some of his issues. I really don’t understand the obsession over one study as if one study can ever be definitive. As for the contention that there are no studies indicating a 10% difference between East Asians and Europeans, I did find one age controlled study where the Chinese sample had 8.8% more total T, 11.4% more bio-available T and 12% more free T than the European sample. The Japanese sample had 10.5%, 5.1% and 6.7% more than Europeans respectively [Wu et al. 1995]. Wonder if race realists discuss this study, or perhaps they are too busy in celebratory dance around the Korean/Swede campfire?

UPDATE 2014-11-21: Blogger named “Bobby Corwen” from the MacRumors forum states:

But that article you quoted was in my opinion quite stupid because it didn’t account for ages in the groups and that testosterone changes drastically over the lifespans of humans.

Coming from a person of your wide intellect, I am honoured to have a post called “quite stupid”. However, can you quantify “drastically”? As I have stated before, the data does not lend itself to easy age normalization. If you want age normalized data, do it yourself. Clearly, you are most capable of doing so.

It was probably biased because it was written by an Asian man but anyway you’re missing the point, in that its about averages and patterns, not about absolutes.

The T values are averages and are your comments “probably biased” because you do not identify as an “Asian man”?

UPDATE 2015-04-12: Blogger Robert Lindsay states concerning the data in this post that:

The East Asian rates are no good. Yes their levels are a bit higher, but they also a higher level of some other hormone that makes it so they cannot use the higher T very well, so effectively, their rates are lower than Whites.

Lindsay clarifies in another post:

Young Black males have higher levels of active testosterone than European and Asian males. Asian levels are intermediate to Blacks and Whites, but Asians have lower levels of a chemical needed to convert testosterone to its active agent, so effectively they have lower levels. Androgen receptor sensitivity is highest in Black men, intermediate in Whites and lowest in Asians.

The problem is that this claim is based on a study (Ross et al. 1992) of 50 US Africans (i.e. Afropeans) and 54 Japanese. Race realists really know the scientific method. Additionally, this recent study shows HK Chinese having some 3% more bio-available T than US Europeans.

Another blogger named Tata comments:

East Asian men and women have more estrogen, the female hormone.

Estrogen is not a “female hormone”. Estrogen has a feminizing effect but males also need estrogen to function optimally. I wonder which studies were consulted to form a conclusion not found in medical books. I suspect I will be wondering for a long time.

Lindsay then comments further:

Further, the free T levels are:

Highest: Blacks
Mid: Whites
Lowest: Asians

It just so turns out that Blacks have the highest crime and violence rates, then Whites, then Asians. Quite a few people believe that Blacks have the highest sex drives, then Whites, then Asians.

Blacks have the largest sex organs and Asians have the smallest, and that once again lines up perfectly with T levels.

The evidence is looking pretty good, not only that, but there is a not of other evidence suggesting that indeed it is true.

Find a supposed correlation. Make widely applicable statements. Provide no data. Being a race realists seems to be a length engagement with delusion, fantasy and ‘scientific’ homo-erotica. Lindsay suffers from the inability to distinguish between a hypothesis and a theory and claims that his “research takes a lot of time“. No kidding.

UPDATE 2015-08-15: A poster using the name Strike_Team states on the Amren site:

There was a site that “proved” E. Asians, E. Indians and Egyptians have higher testosterone levels than whites and blacks, stronger sex drives, with those pitiful white males being the majority of viagra users. It was filled of course a lot of circular reasoning and misuse of data. But it was funny as hell to read the “research” and some of the self serving comments from Indians. They really are the most self aggrandizing people I’ve ever encountered.

I did not prove anything but would love to hear about this circular reasoning and data misuse.

UPDATE 2016-07-07: Return of Kings commenter “Jim Trompe” makes the following claim:

Asians have lower levels of Test(probably an advantage in an advanced peaceful civilization) which is why asian women generally are considered more attractive than asian men. When they looked at the bones of people in the Viking era, its difficult to tell the difference between men and women-high Test from constant warring.

When corrected and sent a link to this blog, he then comments:

If you find that persuasive, its because you didnt actually look at the studies hes referring to. Dead links, studies comparing rapists and soccer players(preselection bias). The guy claims to be an expert but doesn’t know what he’s talking about, for example this statement “Genetically, penis size seems to be determined by in-utero hormone exposure and concentration.” No its caused by Dihydrotestosterone, a direct derivative of Testosterone(Estrogen is another derivative). There are many areas where there are genetic or environmental problems that cause a reduction in the enzyme necessary for the conversion of T to Dihydro..for example the Huevos Doces in the Dominican Republic, they were actually raised as girls because their genitals were so undeveloped. Anyways obviously its going to be a heated issue, just like the “debate” about IQ, because no one want to be in the group that is unmanly or low IQ.

Mr. Trompe, exactly who is an ‘Asian’ and who determines such naming? What does having less T have to do with ‘Asian’ men being less attractive than ‘Asian’ women? To whom is this attraction so configured? The studies I used are not dead links, you can find them if you have access to journal repositories (Ebscohost, Jstor) or simply using Google/Google Scholar. This is an aggregate so bias would be minimized (or so race realists like to claim). I don’t claim to be an expert but if you show where I did, I’ll repent and remove the claim. Your focus on one of my comments in response to another comment illustrates that you don’t care to look at the main issue (T differences) but want to veer off into side issues and ad hominem. Is this because you don’t want to be in an “unmanly” group? You ask for sources but provided none for your own claim that ‘Asians’ have the lowest T. Again, is this because you don’t want to be in the “unmanly” group?

UPDATE 2017-01-27: PumpkinPerson comments:

And the person who created that table seems to have a chip on his shoulder because he thinks Rushton was calling East Asians feminine. But being low T doesn’t make you feminine; estrogen makes you feminine.

Rushton claims that “Orientals” have (i) the smallest “primary sexual characteristics” (ii) the smallest “secondary sexual characteristics” (iii) the least androgens and (iv) tentatively used Nyborg’s hormotyping which ranks “Mongoloids” next to androgynous males. I will keep that chip, thanks!

UPDATE: 2017-08-18: venturecapitalcat on Reddit comments:

… stop spamming this subreddit with your pseudo-scientific bullshit. This entire article screams that whoever wrote it has a tiny penis and is desperately trying to compensate by showing that he has a lot of testosterone.

This article was meant to analyze a race-realist analytic method, not to be a scientific article for peer-review and publication. As such, venturecapitalistcat clearly did not read the article. How then does he/she know the size of my penis and the level of my testosterone? Even if such were known, what does that have to do with the article?

Another commenter swampswing:

… this article just screams “I have a tiny deformed penis”.

Again, why is it that people divine small penis size when information does not conform to their social stereotypes? Whether speaking about me or the poster, such comments speak to the level of brainwashing in Anglospheric countries.

More importantly, theunstopable_cam states:

I’m pretty sure the media doesn’t spread lies about testosterone levels in pop culture.

No it does not but it spreads lies about penis size, influences desirability and props up certain ethnic groups.

John Carter (2012)

Source: Wikipedia

A former army captain Euro-American male John Carter finds an amulet which translates him to the planet Mars. He is a desirable heterosexual male and predictably finds a European-looking, scientifically-minded Martian princess love interest. He had a former European human wife and the movie is apt to display/promote his upper chest nudity [visual assault of European masculinity]. The movie is predicated upon the existence of male European-looking immortal creatures who pull the strings behind the scene, managing martian and earth histories for thousands of years. This of course, will change, because European male Carter desires it to be so [European males control the destinies of everyone theme].

Carter stands against an army of savage martian warriors BY HIMSELF and decimates them [the European male as innate warrior theme], two ‘good’  ethnic martian groups (one humanoid, the other with four hands) desire that he save their respective kingdoms [the European male as saviour theme].

He slays a large, angry, white ape-creature and gains the approval of the four-handed martial martians. Apparently not tired from fighting the ape, Carter then slays the present aggressive and very seasoned warrior king of the martians with ONE swing of his sword [for such is the might of the European male]. But then again, European males are quite apt at learning non-European warfare in a short time-frame (e.g. The Last Samurai).

He then goes by himself to free the good humanoid martian empire from the bad humanoid martians [the European male is self-sufficient and will overcome any challenge theme]. The four-handed aliens have nothing better to do that they give up their deeply embedded cultural way of not flying to mount an aircraft and come to Carter’s aid [for such is the might of the European male that he can inspire change to centuries old cultural traits in non-European aliens].

He proposes to the martian princess, she accepts [because marrying a commoner from another planet who you know for some weeks is so logical]. He thus becomes martian royalty [for such is the destiny of the European male: to rule non-Europeans as their king]. Blah blah more Euro-heterotica (see nomenclature).

Turns out that this movie is based on a book written by Edgar Burroughs, the man who gave us Tarzan, the European male who becomes king of the African jungle when native Africans couldn’t do the same, for such is the might of the European male that even wild animals can be subjugated by the strength and intelligence of the European male.

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